October 9, 2023

How to Pronounce SAORADH and SAOIRSE?

 According to the webpage at 

https://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/saoradh

Saoradh is 

  • SEARruh  / [SEER-uh ]  (Connact), or
  • SAyR ruh  / SAIR-uh  (Munster) , or
  • SEE ruu  or [SEER hu] (Ulster) [/is this true? "saortha" is [ SAIRhha ])

    * the announcer in this video  sounds like he's saying [ SIH-Ruu ], similar to "cereal" (maybe SEEru or SAY rul )?

    (Munster seems to be most Irish/Gaelic: see "Saor" at www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/saor
    ; see also "saortha" [sayr ha] (sayrr(t)ha) teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/saortha

    Accoribg to Wikitionary, the "IPA"(key): for these is 

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    from "Saoirse Ronan Explains How to Pronounce Her Name"

    "so actually is Saoirse [[SEER-sheh ], but it's easier for americans to pronounce it {SUR-sha}."--quote from Saoirse Ronan


    [me; but note  SEER-sha is essentially SaUR-shuh with just a slight change is accent!] 

    --

    "We say seer-sha / ser-sha, Americans tend to say sur-sha"

    [note: it's a very subtle "SEER"[SEAR] ... ]]

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    Saoirse is an Irish female given name which became popular in Ireland in the 1920s. ... The word saoirse, meaning 'freedom'

    --

    Siobha'n : god is gracious [SHI'van]

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    Saoradh = 

        SEER-ruh, SEE'rah

       or SaUR-rah or SaUr-rahv

     or [SEHR RAH] (sarrah)

    or SAOR-rah [SAY'orra] = Sa+oradh = almost SAY+orav (orabh) > [= SAY O RA hh]

       ...or, like SAOR in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Y-BzHYlBs&t=10s ?

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    Saoradh [SEERah] [SEAHrah] [sˠiːɾˠə]

    (SEE AHR rah?)

    (I prefer my made up pronunciation of  SORahv / SOAR av / Sirav / sierab/ sehrah ]

    > IPA : 

      [  e:  ] = [ ay ] as in 'pay'

      [   i:  ]  = [ ee ] as in 'tree', 'sheer' or [ea] is in 'shear', 'mean' 

    "... the IPA phonetic symbol /iː/ corresponds to the vowel sound in words like "fleece", "tree" and "seat "..."

    (per wikitionary: "[ iː ]   >> example:  [ 'mín '  (irish)] >> [pronounced as in English "mean"]") 

    BUT  [ i ] could be just [ ih ], when used as [sihr], pronounced like "cer' in "cereal" .

    > therefore 

      [siɾˠə] = SEER rah

      [ˈsˠeːɾˠə]=SAYR ruh

      /ˈsˠiːɾˠəvˠ/ = SEER rev

    ??

    >>  COMBINE TO MAKE sir'rahv / sirrah/ sih rahh


    SAOR(adv) (([SIRR/SEE+ the letter "R"(ahr)

     = SEahr] )) 

      versus 

    SAOIR(se) [SEER](sha)

    * Acccording to YOutube video, the name Saor

    pronounced 3 ways in Ireland:

    > SEERr (rolled r)

    > SEE-R / SEEah (almost silent r: SEE-uh(r)

    > odd way: SAH-YA

    BUT I THINK THIS IS WRONG! SAYorrah is more likely

    becuase SEER is used in "Saorse'[SEERshih]

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    Another website says "SAR'RAH" !!! == [sehrah] !

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    >>> IPA PER WIKITIONARY =

    sˠiːɾˠə], == SEER eh  = 'ah' as in 'sofa')

    /ˈsˠi ː ɾˠə / = S 


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